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		<title>What i love about Redmine</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I previously told you we moved from Trac to Redmine for project management (issue/ticket tracking, milestones, source control management). In this post i will tell you what i like about Redmine and compare it to our previous Trac setup.
From what i understand from the Trac mailing list &#38; some discussions in some of the ticket [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I previously told you we moved <a title="Trac vs Redmine" href="http://www.digitalbase.be/blog/trac-vs-redmine/" target="_blank">from Trac to Redmine</a> for project management (issue/ticket tracking, milestones, source control management). In this post i will tell you what i like about <a title="Redmine - Project Management" href="http://www.redmine.org/" target="_blank">Redmine </a>and compare it to our previous <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/" target="_blank">Trac</a> setup.</p>
<p>From what i understand from the Trac mailing list &amp; some discussions in some of the ticket comments (by core developers) the main goal of  Trac is to create a stable (and basic) system (or groundlayer) that can be extended by using plugins. Thats a great mission statement&#8230;But (and there is a but) if you are managing several Trac installations this vision turns against you rather quickly, below some of the main things i miss in Trac.</p>
<h2>Multiple Projects</h2>
<p>The initial reason for moving to Redmine was the lack of support for multiple projects in Trac. I know you can hack Trac (see <a title="Trac Hacks" href="http://trac-hacks.org/" target="_blank">track-hacks</a>) to include <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMultipleProjects" target="_blank">multi-project support</a>, but i don&#8217;t like <a title="Hack Trac to support multiple projects" href="http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracForgePlugin">hacking</a>. There were several <a title="Trac Support for Multi Projects" href="http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/130">discussions</a> how (and if) Trac should implement multi-project support fact is : there is no &#8220;out-of-the-box&#8221; solution. I read something about Trac v2.0 supporting this, so i guess we&#8217;ll see that in 2015 then..</p>
<p>Redmine does support multiple projects. The integration throughout the entire system is excellent. You can create nested subprojects and move issues/tickets from one project to another. For each project you are able to assign different users and turn certain functionality (milestones, time tracking, source control,..) on and off.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-184" title="redmine-projects" src="http://www.digitalbase.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/redmine-projects.png" alt="redmine-projects" width="640" height="260" /></p>
<h2>Batch Issue/Ticket editing</h2>
<p>I have to agree Trac ticketing system is very powerful and flexible. Without a doubt Trac is one of the most common and stable tools for project management &amp; issue tracking for a very good reason. You can easily search and filter tickets by severity, project component, version or owner, and then store those. Great.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-186" title="trac-tickets" src="http://www.digitalbase.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/trac-tickets.png" alt="trac-tickets" width="640" height="333" /></p>
<p>What i really miss using Trac is the ability to do a &#8220;mass update&#8221; (edit/close/move) on several tickets at the same time. This is where the ajax powered &#8220;batch edit&#8221; feature of Redmine comes in quite handy.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-185" title="redmine-mass-issue-update" src="http://www.digitalbase.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/redmine-mass-issue-update.png" alt="redmine-mass-issue-update" width="596" height="710" /></p>
<h2>User / Role Management</h2>
<p>The user management in Redmine is great ! Besides normal user management it supports (custom) roles. You are able to set different user roles for different projects.</p>
<p>Trac doesn&#8217;t support &#8220;user management&#8221; out-of-the-box. Unlike other <a title="Bug Tracking" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugtracker" target="_blank">bug-<span class="searchword0">trac</span>king systems</a> that simply have a table for storing the <span class="searchword1">user</span>s, Trac took the approach of allowing users to leverage the numerous authentication modules available for their web server. This means system administrators are able to hook Trac into something like <a title="Lightweight Directori Access" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP" target="_blank">LDAP</a>, Active Directory, or whatever centralized user system that they already have in place.</p>
<p>So which one is better ?  Difficult question. I am a great supporter of working software out of the box. Not too much configuration, easy to install. This doesn&#8217;t mean the software has to be &#8220;simple&#8221; : flexible and easy-to-configure can go along hand in  hand. That being said i think Redmine took the best approach in having good user management right after installation. If you need something more centralized they still have <a title="LDAP" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP" target="_blank">LDAP</a> support.</p>
<h2>A lot of updates/ new features</h2>
<p>I am sure Trac is more stable then Redmine. So if you need a stable product, use Trac But as we are a small webdesign company, the stability of the development environment isn&#8217;t really that critical to us.</p>
<p>What i am looking for in project management software are new features/idea&#8217;s to improve the way our team is working together. I keep an eye on the <a title="Redmine activity" href="http://www.redmine.org/projects/activity/redmine" target="_blank">Redmine timeline/activity</a> to see how other people are using the Redmine platform. Some of their comments/ideas inspire us to change the way we are working or start using a specific feature we haven&#8217;t paid attention to.</p>
<h2>Anything else ?</h2>
<p>Yes, there are some things Trac does alot better. First of all Trac has a large community with multiple core developers, redmine is built around one (maybe a few) persons. Then the source repository browser in Trac is alot more powerful and intuitive.</p>
<p>I have been using Trac for along time now and i have a great deal of respect for all the guys that are working on this rocksolid project. But as i said before, Trac&#8217;s strengths is also it&#8217;s weakness. By trying to keep the system as lightweight as possible, discussions about possible features mostly result in the &#8220;not for core&#8221; decision.</p>
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